> None <input type="radio" checked name="radio_test" value="None" /> And if you didn't want it to show to the user (because they have to make a choice anyway) . . . you can use this css: input[value="None"] { display: none; } You should then always have a value to play with in PHP, and the user doesn't see any extra clutter. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php