Ryan, Write the contract to state the targets as they exist now, the estimated hours and how you will be paid(i.e. - by the hour, milestone, etc...) then when a change is made to the design, simply make an addendum to the original contract and list the changes that are to be done, estimated time and again how you will be paid. Make sure the client is signing this stuff (even friends and family). Personally I like setting design targets (or goals if you prefer) and having the client sign off on each as they are completed and I am paid per target finished. CJ "Ryan A" <ryan@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:000301c54110$885a0410$2d80aa51@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Hey, > There was some discussion before this on how much to charge to make a site > / > set of scripts, > which also turned into advise from the more experienced members of this > list...good advise I > might add. > > Note: > This thread is not directly a php thread but related in a big way to what > most of us do, you might > not want to read it if you only read programming threads, this is intended > to be more of a discussion. > > That said....I'll continue: > One of the parts that I noted (and that has come back to haunt me) is: > write the entire scope of the project and make them sign on the dotted > line > even if they are family friends. > (more or less those words) > I'm working with a client who is really ticking me off with his constant > request for addition of > features/changes some of which i pointly decline unless i am paid > more...others I do...coz the project is > big and well paying....and the changes are not too big. > The client I am working with gave me some rough drawings (pen (not pencil) > hand drawings on napkins > and A4 papers), some scribblings etc > > My question is, how can we document the whole contract *properly* when the > client is asking you > to make something new (eg features not found anywhere else), code, > layouts, > navigation, buttons, > sections, functionality etc? Getting a lawyer is (for most of us...like > me) > out of the question... > > Is there any software out there that helps? or do you take the extra days > (or maybe weeks) to write > up everything for him to sign on the dotted line? Keep in mind while you > are > taking the time to write > up the whole thing he can pick someone else...or he might be in a hurry. > > > Advise on what you think would help...and things that you _actually_ do > would help a lot of us I think > sidestep bad experiences in the future. > > Thanks, > Ryan > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.9 - Release Date: 4/13/2005 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
