RE: incrementing a number from a text file

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Is it possible to let the OS handle the collisions?

For example:

$last_value = system('cat counter.txt', $retval);
$last_value++;
$result = system('echo $last_value > counter.txt', $retval);

...just a suggestion!

Regards
/Luis



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lynch [mailto:ceo@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:14 PM
To: Ross Hulford
Cc: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  incrementing a number from a text file

> I want to read a number from an external (txt) file and increment 
> it.then save the number back on the text file.
> I know this is possible but want a simple amd economical way to do
this.

That's what you *THINK* you want to do :-)

But what happens when *TWO* users hit that same script at exactly the
same time.

At best, you get:

User1             User2
Reads 9          Reads 9
Writes 10         Writes 10

and when you should have 11, you've only got 10.

[aside] "My amp goes to 11!" [/aside]

But it's worse than that:  It's entirely poassible that your script,
instead of having two users write "10" one after the other, will have
two users both trying to write "10" at EXACTLY the same time.

The result is comparable to a head-on collision between two trains.
Your file is TOAST.

This is why so many early "hit counter" scripts back in the day were
always getting messed up and reset to 0.

What you really want, almost for sure, is an SQL database with
"sequences"

You have to forge those in MySQL by making a table with auto_increment.

You *can* use http://php.net/flock, but even that is a Bad Idea, because
flock under Un*x is self-imposed -- If some *other* program/script/user
decides not change that file and doesn't use flock, well, they're not
STOPPED from doing that.

flock is therefore all too subject to human fallibility when you
re-work, re-write, or add more code to your system.

The SQL guys have worked out this problem, in all respects.

This is one of those things that SEEMS so simple that turns out to be a
hell of a lot more involved than you thought at first.  So it goes.

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