Jocham: Uh??? First of all, no that was not intended at you. Dhanasekar asked a question, and I answered it. I don't think the rest of your message/attack is particularly relevent, with the above taken into account. I simply saw a question that I knew the answer to, and answered it as best I could. It wasn't meant to talk down, or state obvious, but rather to mention things, that people generally don't think of, or in the case of the newbie guide/smart-question guide, just don't know. If you are going to judge my 'giving a little back' then try to get your facts straight. I think my 'giving back' greatly outweighs my 'taking' from this and any other tech forum that I've ever used. I'll provide you with a sample if necessary. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:35:29 +0100, Jochem Maas <jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Rory Browne wrote: > > How to use this list best: > > > > Search the archives at lists.php.net for [NEWBIE GUIDE] It was written > > by Jay Blanchard earlier this year I believe. Read it. > > heh Rory, is this aimed at me or did you just reply to my mail for > convienience? I happen to know the NEWBIE GUIDE quiet intimately > (n'est pas Jay? :-) > > > > > Then read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > Then try learning PHP from the PHP manual. If you come across a > > problem, then explain the problem, AND WHAT STEPS YOU HAVE TAKEN TO > > SOLVE THE PROBLEM YOURSELF BEFORE POSTING TO THE LIST. > > > > Give a little back. After you've learn't a little, and you see someone > > me again. well i have mailed the list 235 times since 12-1-05 (as far as my local > mail folders go atm) - granted not all are useful/valid answers, > - compared to your 7 posts. I feel that I have satisfied the 'little' in > 'give a little back' even if you don't :-). > > anyway its not a pissing content, besides if it was I'd put my money on > Richard Lynch for all categories: > > 1. total number of posts > 2. highest average no. of posts/week > 3. longest post > 4. total no. of words written > 5. highest average no. of words/post > > :-) > > > else posting a question that you know the answer to an feel you can > > explain well, then hit your email clients reply button. > > > > If you want to fit in, and you want to be taken seriously, and most > > importantly if you want to learn, then consider the above points. > > again is this aimed at me? no biggy but really I don't want to fit > in all that bad.... > > <quote person="Groucho Marx"> > I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member ;-) > </quote> > > ... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:21:48 +0100, Jochem Maas <jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >>Bret Hughes wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 05:27, Dhanasekar T wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>hi all, > >>>>i m new to this group ...now i want to learn php. > >> > >>right now? not in five minutes. > > I was kidding! > > >> > >> > >>>>i want all u r guidence to utilise this group... > >>>>thanks in advance > >>>>dhanas > >>> > >>Dhanas, > >> > >>do you have php installed ? > > Dhana is very welcome to answer this question, and maybe give > some background as to his/her general skill level > > **give us more input Dhana and maybe we can point you in the > right direction** > > so come on Dhana - talk to us, tell us what your capable of > and what you would like to accomplish (be specific and start out > small if your a 'virgin programmer' ;-) > > >>can you access http://php.net ? the best place to start > >>reading/learning.... > >> > >> > >>> > >>>I would start by looking at and dare I say reading the manual at > >>>php.net. Then surf around for a beginners tutorial, and start coding. > >>> > >>>I suspect the learning curve shape depends on whether you have any > >>>previous programming experience or not. > >> > >>hey! I was looking forward to being utilized. ;-) > > my hope is that Dhana is not so stupid that he assumes that my bit of > humor was directly meant to make fun of his command of the english language. > > I can find Dhanas use of words funny without requiring that I also > must mock him... besides the fact that I made the joke might be useful feedback > to Dhana with regard to bettering his English - Im sure he/she wishes to be able to > communicate as effectively as possible. > > going back to your point about 'If you want to fit in': we are in the lower > echelons of hackerdom (for want of a better description). Fitting in entails > acting like a hacker.....which means be f****** resourceful, read, study, test, > experiment, don't _expect_ to be spoonfed knowledge/answers (heh you may get > lucky once in a while and get a visit from the BlueFairy but don't count on it). > > we that was my daily dose of prescribed stress relief :-) > > >> > >> > >>>Bret > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > >>To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >> > >> > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
