* Electroteque <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > no error handling ???? I should have qualified that. If you do something like: $smarty->display($filename); and $filename does not exist, you get an error. When I say error handling, I mean that I'd like for the method to return an error so I can handle it gracefully (instead of an ugly developer error to the screen, or if set to ~E_ALL, nothing sent to screen at all): $res = $smarty->display($filename); if (Smarty::isError($res)) { // Do something else } > what i am asking, can it to standard template blocks aswell, like you > have a main template and can add template blocks from a seperate > template ? Yes -- {include file="someOther.tpl"}. > and also can it be html programmer or designer friendly still say with > simple vars like {myvar} instead of tedious logic that only a > developer can understand ? Yes: {$myvar} displays the contents of $myvar, if it is set and non-empty. Plus, there's a couple different loop handling constructs, if/then/else statements, math stuff, and a number of specialty functions (my current favorites: date_format and truncate). Smarty is as complex as you want it to be; if you want to keep it simple, it does that, too. > On 16/12/2004, at 12:55 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > > * Electroteque <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > hi there I am trying to choose between the two, which one is > > > efficient, but is also html programmer friendly and can still do > > > template block style templating like fasttemplate or phemplate. I > > > am trying to move people who have been using fasttemplate to a > > > more efficient system, although these two systems have logic > > > inside the templating. > > > > You're verging on a religious war here... > > > > My predictions: > > 1) 25% respond in favor of HTML_Template_Flexy > > 2) 25% respond in favor of Smarty > > 3) 25% respond in favor of different templating solutions altogether > > 4) 25% respond asking why you need a templating system at all when you > > have PHP > > > > As for my own leanings -- we use Smarty where I work, and I like its > > flexibility and the ease with which I can integrate it with regular > > HTML > > (I particularly like that it doesn't use angle brackets as its > > delimiters -- makes it easy to spot Smarty directives in the template). > > > > My one complaint about it: no error handling. I wish it had error > > handling ala PEAR -- occasionally I get errors in Smarty that end up > > being hard to debug due to the complexity of the templates and/or > > number of templates we're using to generate a page. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney | mailto:matthew@xxxxxxxxxx Webmaster and IT Specialist | http://www.garden.org National Gardening Association | http://www.kidsgardening.com 802-863-5251 x156 | http://nationalgardenmonth.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php