Re: Re: Session variables not unsetting

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On Tuesday 07 December 2004 01:32, Richard Lynch wrote:
> steve wrote:
> > Jason Wong wrote:
> >> With register_globals enabled, the problem is not with the $_POST, $_GET
> >> etc variables (although yes you should always validate data when they
> >> come
> >> from untrusted sources). The problem is that malicious users can pollute
> >> your namespace and if you do not initialise variables properly before
> >> using them your application can be compromised.
>
> On the contrary, with register_globals enabled, the problem *IS* with
> $_POST, $_GET etc variables being polluted!

I'm not sure I'm following you. Regardless of the register_globals setting, 
$_POST, $_GET and siblings has the potential to be polluted and data from 
them should be validated and sanitised.

> That is the very definition of the problem register_globals was designed
> to solve.

 ... flummoxed ...

Anyway the way I see it is that the original intent of register_globals (and 
it being enabled by default in older versions) was a feature so that people 
can work 'directly' (as it were) with the request variables instead of having 
to use $HTTP_POST_VARS['myvariable'] etc. It was only when people realised 
that it could be a liability that is now disabled by default.

> Turning register_globals OFF simply corrals the pollution so that it's
> *ONLY* in $_POST/$_GET/$_REQUEST/etc instead of automatically being spewed
> throughout the global name space of all variables.
>
> If you blindly walk through POST/GET, or use extract on them, or do
> something that turns *EVERY* POST/GET entry into a variable, you might as
> well turn register_globals ON -- Otherwise, your OFF setting is only
> providing you with a false sense of security, which is worse than no
> security at all.

This bit I follow and whole-heartedly agree with.

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