--- Rory Browne <rory.browne@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I was looking at Zend training requirements, on Zends website. > > They reportedly require Win2k/XP, and IE>5.5. > > Does anyone know what specific part of these training courses > require Win2k/xp and IE, and whether or not it is possible to > bypass this using Wine(or if it is due to a wma dep, using > mozilla/mplayer)? The software used for the virtual classroom requires Windows, and clicking a link in IE is required to join the class (it doesn't work if you click the link in Firefox). It's a proprietary application - not any standard audio or video like you might be thinking. I have a separate Windows partition that I use 3 hours each month for this purpose (soon to be 6 hours a month, since I'm going to add a class in January). It's definitely something I wish would change, but that's not really my decision. I hate to think that people are excluded because of the platform, but I know that happens, especially since a majority of professional developers seem to use Linux and Mac OS X as much or more than Windows. Installing Windows to teach a security course seemed rather odd, believe me. :-) If you can spare a partition or have a friend with a Windows PC, I really do think it's a good deal for $99 a class. This virtual training isn't as good as the real deal (in person), but it's much better than I expected, and it's so darn cheap. > I was discussing this with a collegue on the Irish Linux Users > Group, and neither of us can meet the Windows Requirement, with > me, running various flavours of (GNU/)Linux only, and he running > Linux, and MacOSX, only. I have personally tried Virtual PC on Mac OS X with this software, and it works fine for listening. I can't use it to teach, because my voice is too choppy with the emulation, but it should work fine for taking a class. I've never personally tried wine, but I know someone who has, and it has the same issues - you just can't talk. There is a way to send an IM to the intructor during class, and most people use this anyway, so it might not be an issue. > It seems strange that training for the use of Free/Open Source > Software would require win2k/xp. Yes, I agree. If you can manage to work around this hassle, I think you'll find the training to be worth it. I hope so. :-) Chris ===== Chris Shiflett - http://shiflett.org/ PHP Security - O'Reilly HTTP Developer's Handbook - Sams Coming February 2005 http://httphandbook.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php