Found it - went for a cup of tea and thought.. <pre>!!!!! Sorry _____ From: Nunners [mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 29 October 2004 16:52 To: 'php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Friday afternoon - being thick Hi All, I'm having one of those Friday afternoon moments - I can't remember what tag to use. I've got some text that contains carriage returns, which are not <br />. what tag do I need to use to display the text with the carriage returns?!!!! Can't even remember whether it's html or php. Cheers Nunners