I know I can see if php has the ability to talk with the Mysql server, but is there a way to determine if the Mysql server is running. In some cases, I wouldn't have passwords, so a mysql_connect wouldn't work. Anyone have ideas? Thanks for the help. Mike B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php