Re: historical photo useage

["wpettit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <wpettit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jan, I have a stupid question.  Are you considering selling only limited publication rights?   

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Faul
Sent: Oct 30, 2015 8:31 PM
To: "PHOTOFORUM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: Re: historical photo useage

I never thought they should be $1 million a pop - somebody else suggested that. That would be  great as I have 540 so that’s half a billion.

It’s not an editorial use, but a historical use so are they worth $5k or $15k or something in the middle?

I don’t need excellent exposure. I need money. I have enough excellent exposure to fill the Queen Mary.

 

On Oct 30, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In an editorial magazine in an editorial story for an editorial use its editorial fee.     Who ever at Getty said 7 figures is on crack.    $1,000,000 would put it in the top 20 of Photographs ever SOLD.  Since they aren't buying it that seems pretty much like unlikely. 

Randy S. Little
http://www.rslittle.com/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi folks,

OK, I have a seemingly simple question about pricing which has become overblown with extravagant possibilities.

http://janfaul.com/blog/

The above link takes the viewer to a story about an assignment I had with Muhammad Ali in 1973. The unstated part of the story is that the resulting images were never completely edited by the photo editor. He decided after the first few sheets that the other 12 couldn’t be more helpful. He had after all, instructed me to “…shoot a few rolls and split”. But my DC assignment editor said, “Don’t leave until they kick you out.”

Now it is almost exactly 42 years later and as my images were never used, they remain unpublished. The film eventually found its way into the 1973 binder, where it sat until this past spring. Then I dragged it out, dropped it onto a new scanner, scanned it at  high rez as an experiment and went through all the film which looked remotely interesting on the contacts.

Now a NYC magazine publisher wants to use them and nobody can give me an indicator as to what to charge. Even FotoQuote is stumped. The shots are historical not editorial, are going to run no larger than a quarter to a half page in a pub with a circulation of about 3 million in the US and Europe.

The question is, how much should they pay? Somebody at Getty says $1 million, but we all know that won’t fly. So what do you guys think?  Randy? It’s time for your wisdom 

Jan

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