Thanks so much, Andy, for doing the book. Your creation of an international community has been quite an achievement. Kim > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:53 PM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Send PhotoForum mailing list submissions to > photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/listinfo.cgi/photoforum > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > photoforum-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PhotoForum digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 2015 Photoforum Book (Peters Belinda) > 2. Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - FINALLY! > (Tina Manley) > 3. Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - FINALLY! > (GARY THOMAS) > 4. Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - FINALLY! > (Palma) > 5. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Dan Mitchell) > 6. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Lew Schwartz) > 7. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water (Jan Faul) > 8. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Randy Little) > 9. Re: 2015 Photoforum Book (Pini Vollach) > 10. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Lea Murphy) > 11. Re: 2015 Photoforum Book (Jan Faul) > 12. Re: 2015 Photoforum Book (YGelmanPhoto) > 13. Re: 2015 Photoforum Book (Jan Faul) > 14. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (PhotoRoy6@xxxxxxx) > 15. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Randy Little) > 16. Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Lea Murphy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:23:15 -0400 > From: Peters Belinda <picasso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: 2015 Photoforum Book > Message-ID: <D68A6C48-92E7-40D9-9ECD-FFEDAF2098AA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As twice before Andy, you have done a fantastic job1 > > Thank you for all the hard work for this one, but also for all the work for Photoforum. > > Belinda >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:00 AM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:13 +0000 >> From: Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx>> >> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >> Subject: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - >> FINALLY! >> Message-ID: <8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx <mailto:8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> PhotoForum list members, >> >> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/><http://Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/>> The price is $17. For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >> >> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html <http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html> >> >> The original PDF of the interior pages is something like 70 Mb. If you are considering a printed copy you may wish to see what the interior pages look like. You can see or possibly get (if you know how!) a compressed PDF (just 3Mb) of the book from here: >> >> http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf <http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf> >> >> I can upload a large version of the PDF to a file transfer outfit like Dropbox if there is interest. Just drop me an email at andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> >> >> BTW 1. I?ve had to remove the very first page because it interfered with how the PDF showed up in two-page view but that page is almost just like a second cover. >> >> BTW 2. the cover looks like this: >> >> [cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com] <cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com]> >> >> I apologize beforehand in case I have messed up somewhere along the line working on this project. I did ?copy and paste? for the text and hope that I did not miss something. >> I guess this time there is no helpful imaginary assistant(s) to blame and if anything is not to your satisfaction I am the only one to hold accountable. >> >> Have a good week and for those of you who are impacted by this ?.. HAPPY St. PATRICK?S day!! >> >> Andy >> >> Andrew Davidhazy, PhotoForum list coordinator, andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/2edda47f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:40:59 -0400 > From: Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available > - FINALLY! > Message-ID: > <CA+yJO1B5KmZyc2yjobZ4XeSmTgMZyONeWAECw5L1vaMj-Md3ZQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I've ordered mine. Thanks, Andy! It looks great. > > Tina > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> PhotoForum list members, >> >> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from >> Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/> The price is $17. For your information my >> ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >> >> >> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html >> >> Andy >> > >> > > -- > Tina Manley > http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/90822389/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:07:43 +0000 > From: GARY THOMAS <gary.m.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available > - FINALLY! > Message-ID: > <CAFdW2fFXQwfKkR9QkOvMc_Um=Pu7h_Of2ZuqhLD4+exzxw0SuA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > "For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 " > > Don't spend it all at once. I would recommend getting independent financial > advice on how to invest it! :-) > > Gary > > On 17 March 2015 at 13:40, Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I've ordered mine. Thanks, Andy! It looks great. >> >> Tina >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> PhotoForum list members, >>> >>> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available >>> from Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/> The price is $17. For your information >>> my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >>> >>> >>> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >>> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley >> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com >> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/db49f11d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:20:41 -0400 > From: Palma <palmabrozzetti@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Catalog of PF members' photographs available > - FINALLY! > Message-ID: > <CACdkcQow9qJaJdSENEydGDtP06N8GLF8fXHikm5AGKPcbexc5Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Nice book. Thanks Andy! > Palma > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I've ordered mine. Thanks, Andy! It looks great. >> >> Tina >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> PhotoForum list members, >>> >>> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available >>> from Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/> The price is $17. For your information >>> my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >>> >>> >>> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html >>> >>> Andy >>> >> >>> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley >> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com >> http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/66996ee4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 18:06:09 +0000 > From: Dan Mitchell <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> > To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: <20C7123D-418E-4D99-A896-695AFC57A3CB@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to use the printer. > > There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). > > With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. > > I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully they are less likely to clog the printing heads. > > > > > >> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. printer ink (Bob) >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: printer ink >> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >> >> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:14:34 -0400 > From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: > <CAFuU78cvfVV_6VkSEb=dag26+2UgFq069zQ0ufS+zEszNd+erQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Could you name some high end type 1 printers? > On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to >> use the printer. >> >> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets >> integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable >> heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >> >> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets >> are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked >> all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 >> printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means >> an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive >> heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >> >> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to >> work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the >> service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a >> type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to >> the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a >> type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully >> they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: printer ink >>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>> >>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>> >>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/09c372fd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:10:12 -0400 > From: Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "PHOTOFORUM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Don't throw the baby out with the bath water > Message-ID: <180478EF-840A-4AAF-AE66-883CACA18CAF@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I own an Epson 4900 and it is one of Dan?s Type 2 printers. > > I think a refurb is about $1500 these days, and if you go look online, one can find the manual and the initial charge software. Initial charging will clean out the heads nicely with $35/cart compatible inks rather than Epsons at $90, and now that I?ve done that the printer works as if new. The initial charge software only runs on a PC, so I borrow one when needed. > > ?High end printers? can be found at B&H or Amazon - just rank them by price downwards from most expensive, not most popular. > > Jan > >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Could you name some high end type 1 printers? >> >> On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to use the printer. >> >> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >> >> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >> >> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx <mailto:w8imo@xxxxxxxx>> >>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>> Subject: printer ink >>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx <mailto:55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>> >>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>> >>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>> >> > > > Art Faul > > The Artist Formerly Known as Prints > ------ > Art for Cars: art4carz.com > Stills That Move: http://www.artfaul.com > Greens: http://www.inkjetprince.com > Camera Works - The Washington Post > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/battlefieldparks/front_qt.htm > ArtNet: http://www.artnet.com/artists/jan+w.-faul/ > > . > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/a0853f2c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:15:09 -0400 > From: Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: > <CAOoogNiViezvzYZXbN+bRsb84g4U_hBX+HNCpCqK2kuDFD1=6Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If you get large format printers they work totally different then the > smaller printers and there will be no head issues with either. If you don't > use either enough the heads will need to be cleaned to clear clogs but its > nothing like how a say epson 2200 is totally ruined or take 6 gallons of > ink to clean. I use my epson 3800 seldom anymore and I have to run a > clean every time. Since its inks are SO MUCH cheaper then smaller format > printers and there are VERY VERY good 3rd party inks I am very very happy. > > > Randy S. Little > http://www.rslittle.com/ > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Could you name some high end type 1 printers? >> On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to >>> use the printer. >>> >>> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets >>> integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable >>> heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >>> >>> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets >>> are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked >>> all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 >>> printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means >>> an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive >>> heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >>> >>> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to >>> work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the >>> service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a >>> type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to >>> the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a >>> type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully >>> they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >>>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: printer ink >>>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>>> >>>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>>> >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/69a53221/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 21:35:14 +0200 > From: Pini Vollach <pinimage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: 'PhotoForum educational network' <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: 2015 Photoforum Book > Message-ID: <003801d060e9$83ce82a0$8b6b87e0$@bezeqint.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It will take time untill I shall see the printed copy here in Israel. > > Meanwhile, I enjoy the PDF version. > > Thank you Andy for leading this project again. > > > > Pini Vollach > > > > From: photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peters Belinda > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:23 PM > To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: 2015 Photoforum Book > > > > As twice before Andy, you have done a fantastic job1 > > > > Thank you for all the hard work for this one, but also for all the work for > Photoforum. > > > > Belinda > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:00 AM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:13 +0000 > From: Andrew Davidhazy < <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> andpph@xxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network < <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - > FINALLY! > Message-ID: < <mailto:8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx> > 8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > PhotoForum list members, > > The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from > <http://lulu.com/> Lulu.com< <http://lulu.com/> http://Lulu.com> The price > is $17. For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 > > > <http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-member > s-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html> > http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members > -photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html > > The original PDF of the interior pages is something like 70 Mb. If you are > considering a printed copy you may wish to see what the interior pages look > like. You can see or possibly get (if you know how!) a compressed PDF (just > 3Mb) of the book from here: > > > <http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C- > final-small.pdf> > http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-f > inal-small.pdf > > I can upload a large version of the PDF to a file transfer outfit like > Dropbox if there is interest. Just drop me an email at > <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> andpph@xxxxxxx > > BTW 1. I?ve had to remove the very first page because it interfered with how > the PDF showed up in two-page view but that page is almost just like a > second cover. > > BTW 2. the cover looks like this: > > [cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com] > > I apologize beforehand in case I have messed up somewhere along the line > working on this project. I did ?copy and paste? for the text and hope that I > did not miss something. > I guess this time there is no helpful imaginary assistant(s) to blame and if > anything is not to your satisfaction I am the only one to hold accountable. > > Have a good week and for those of you who are impacted by this ?.. HAPPY St. > PATRICK?S day!! > > Andy > > Andrew Davidhazy, PhotoForum list coordinator, <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> > andpph@xxxxxxx > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/df7dabe2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 14:24:33 -0500 > From: Lea Murphy <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: <30B4702D-FA98-474E-B0F8-F0FA4BD7B85B@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Randy, > > What third party ink are you using in your 3800? > > I?ve a 3880 and would consider another brand. > > Lea > > your kids . my camera . we'll click > www.leamurphy.com > > > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> If you get large format printers they work totally different then the smaller printers and there will be no head issues with either. If you don't use either enough the heads will need to be cleaned to clear clogs but its nothing like how a say epson 2200 is totally ruined or take 6 gallons of ink to clean. I use my epson 3800 seldom anymore and I have to run a clean every time. Since its inks are SO MUCH cheaper then smaller format printers and there are VERY VERY good 3rd party inks I am very very happy. >> >> Randy S. Little >> http://www.rslittle.com/ >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Could you name some high end type 1 printers? >> >> On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to use the printer. >> >> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >> >> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >> >> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: printer ink >>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>> >>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>> >>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/0d67270e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:45:09 -0400 > From: Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "PHOTOFORUM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: 2015 Photoforum Book > Message-ID: <81E9655D-254F-4313-A2E0-336CFA98A4D8@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > For some reason I can?t see past page 12. > >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Pini Vollach <pinimage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> It will take time untill I shall see the printed copy here in Israel. >> Meanwhile, I enjoy the PDF version. >> Thank you Andy for leading this project again. >> >> Pini Vollach >> >> From: photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Peters Belinda >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:23 PM >> To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: 2015 Photoforum Book >> >> As twice before Andy, you have done a fantastic job1 >> >> Thank you for all the hard work for this one, but also for all the work for Photoforum. >> >> Belinda >>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:00 AM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:13 +0000 >>> From: Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx>> >>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>> Subject: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - >>> FINALLY! >>> Message-ID: <8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx <mailto:8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> PhotoForum list members, >>> >>> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/><http://Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/>> The price is $17. For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >>> >>> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html <http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html> >>> >>> The original PDF of the interior pages is something like 70 Mb. If you are considering a printed copy you may wish to see what the interior pages look like. You can see or possibly get (if you know how!) a compressed PDF (just 3Mb) of the book from here: >>> >>> http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf <http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf> >>> >>> I can upload a large version of the PDF to a file transfer outfit like Dropbox if there is interest. Just drop me an email at andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> >>> >>> BTW 1. I?ve had to remove the very first page because it interfered with how the PDF showed up in two-page view but that page is almost just like a second cover. >>> >>> BTW 2. the cover looks like this: >>> >>> [cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com] <cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com]> >>> >>> I apologize beforehand in case I have messed up somewhere along the line working on this project. I did ?copy and paste? for the text and hope that I did not miss something. >>> I guess this time there is no helpful imaginary assistant(s) to blame and if anything is not to your satisfaction I am the only one to hold accountable. >>> >>> Have a good week and for those of you who are impacted by this ?.. HAPPY St. PATRICK?S day!! >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> Andrew Davidhazy, PhotoForum list coordinator, andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> > > Art Faul > > The Artist Formerly Known as Prints > ------ > Art for Cars: art4carz.com > Stills That Move: http://www.artfaul.com > Greens: http://www.inkjetprince.com > Camera Works - The Washington Post > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/battlefieldparks/front_qt.htm > ArtNet: http://www.artnet.com/artists/jan+w.-faul/ > > . > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/e246171e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:56:48 -0400 > From: YGelmanPhoto <ygelmanphoto@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: 2015 Photoforum Book > Message-ID: > <CAKvz05yYN17LqLQaxrYBtP4t0mNViPH60ox8d_d2rR+dH15UmA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Use this: > > http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf > > > > -- *www.ygelmanphoto.com <http://www.ygelmanphoto.com>* > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> For some reason I can?t see past page 12. >> >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:00 AM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:13 +0000 >> From: Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> >> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - >> FINALLY! >> Message-ID: <8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> PhotoForum list members, >> >> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from >> Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/><http://Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/>> The >> price is $17. For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy >> is $2.22 >> >> >> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html >> >> The original PDF of the interior pages is something like 70 Mb. If you are >> considering a printed copy you may wish to see what the interior pages look >> like. You can see or possibly get (if you know how!) a compressed PDF >> (just 3Mb) of the book from here: >> >> >> http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf >> >> I can upload a large version of the PDF to a file transfer outfit like >> Dropbox if there is interest. Just drop me an email at andpph@xxxxxxx >> >> BTW 1. I?ve had to remove the very first page because it interfered with >> how the PDF showed up in two-page view but that page is almost just like a >> second cover. >> >> BTW 2. the cover looks like this: >> >> [cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com] >> >> I apologize beforehand in case I have messed up somewhere along the line >> working on this project. I did ?copy and paste? for the text and hope that >> I did not miss something. >> I guess this time there is no helpful imaginary assistant(s) to blame and >> if anything is not to your satisfaction I am the only one to hold >> accountable. >> >> Have a good week and for those of you who are impacted by this ?.. HAPPY >> St. PATRICK?S day!! >> >> Andy >> >> Andrew Davidhazy, PhotoForum list coordinator, andpph@xxxxxxx >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/0bbe5a64/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:24:04 -0400 > From: Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "PHOTOFORUM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: 2015 Photoforum Book > Message-ID: <3A896A7E-BD19-4C35-9939-981FA80CFC50@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I see only one fool took his picture across the gutter. I guess we?ll see how it turns out. > >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:56 PM, YGelmanPhoto <ygelmanphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Use this: >>>> http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf <http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf> >> >> >> -- www.ygelmanphoto.com <http://www.ygelmanphoto.com/> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> For some reason I can?t see past page 12. >> >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:00 AM, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:36:13 +0000 >>>> From: Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx>> >>>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>> Subject: Catalog of PF members' photographs available - >>>> FINALLY! >>>> Message-ID: <8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx <mailto:8781AE75-F7EB-4492-A3FE-848C9C52685D@xxxxxxx>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>>> >>>> PhotoForum list members, >>>> >>>> The catalog of photographs by 31 members of the list is now available from Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/><http://Lulu.com <http://lulu.com/>> The price is $17. For your information my ?profit? from the sale of each copy is $2.22 >>>> >>>> http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html <http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-davidhazy/photoforum-on-the-internet-members-photographs-2015/paperback/product-22088074.html> >>>> >>>> The original PDF of the interior pages is something like 70 Mb. If you are considering a printed copy you may wish to see what the interior pages look like. You can see or possibly get (if you know how!) a compressed PDF (just 3Mb) of the book from here: >>>> >>>> http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf <http://www.davidhazy.org/andpph/2015-pix/photoforum-book-hoefler-2015-V3-C-final-small.pdf> >>>> >>>> I can upload a large version of the PDF to a file transfer outfit like Dropbox if there is interest. Just drop me an email at andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> BTW 1. I?ve had to remove the very first page because it interfered with how the PDF showed up in two-page view but that page is almost just like a second cover. >>>> >>>> BTW 2. the cover looks like this: >>>> >>>> [cid:9097476F-73BB-4C91-B2CA-377BDA98C910@netgear.com] <> >>>> >>>> I apologize beforehand in case I have messed up somewhere along the line working on this project. I did ?copy and paste? for the text and hope that I did not miss something. >>>> I guess this time there is no helpful imaginary assistant(s) to blame and if anything is not to your satisfaction I am the only one to hold accountable. >>>> >>>> Have a good week and for those of you who are impacted by this ?.. HAPPY St. PATRICK?S day!! >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> Andrew Davidhazy, PhotoForum list coordinator, andpph@xxxxxxx <mailto:andpph@xxxxxxx> >> > > > Art Faul > > The Artist Formerly Known as Prints > ------ > Art for Cars: art4carz.com > Stills That Move: http://www.artfaul.com > Greens: http://www.inkjetprince.com > Camera Works - The Washington Post > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/battlefieldparks/front_qt.htm > ArtNet: http://www.artnet.com/artists/jan+w.-faul/ > > . > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/0d2bd2fd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:38:28 -0400 > From: PhotoRoy6@xxxxxxx > To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: <17d8b7.319d265c.4239eac4@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > I have used an Epson 1270 with various 3rd party inks for years for > printing text until the battery on the board went dead (never figured how to > dissemble the printer). Years ago when I used pigment ink in it I just got a > cleaning cart for it and cleaned the nozzles. It went back to printing fine > with dye ink. > > In a message dated 3/17/2015 2:14:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lew1716@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > Could you name some high end type 1 printers? > On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <_danmdan3842@gmail.com_ > (mailto:danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx) > wrote: > > The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to > use the printer. > > There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets > integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable heads/jets as a > fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). > > With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets > are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked > all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 > printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means an > expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive > heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. > > I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to > work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the > service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a type > 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to the > excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a > type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully > they are less likely to clog the printing heads. > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/dba8842f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:47:14 -0400 > From: Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: > <CAOoogNivW-8A-FVSVA11H9SrkHLrmikt4vCzzgr5onfdC+esqw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > http://www.inkpro2day.com/ > > Randy S. Little > http://www.rslittle.com/ > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Lea Murphy <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Randy, >> >> What third party ink are you using in your 3800? >> >> I?ve a 3880 and would consider another brand. >> >> Lea >> >> your kids . my camera . we'll click >> www.leamurphy.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> If you get large format printers they work totally different then the >> smaller printers and there will be no head issues with either. If you don't >> use either enough the heads will need to be cleaned to clear clogs but its >> nothing like how a say epson 2200 is totally ruined or take 6 gallons of >> ink to clean. I use my epson 3800 seldom anymore and I have to run a >> clean every time. Since its inks are SO MUCH cheaper then smaller format >> printers and there are VERY VERY good 3rd party inks I am very very happy. >> >> >> Randy S. Little >> http://www.rslittle.com/ >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Could you name some high end type 1 printers? >>> On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need >>>> to use the printer. >>>> >>>> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets >>>> integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable >>>> heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >>>> >>>> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets >>>> are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked >>>> all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 >>>> printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means >>>> an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive >>>> heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >>>> >>>> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to >>>> work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the >>>> service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a >>>> type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to >>>> the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a >>>> type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully >>>> they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>>>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Subject: printer ink >>>>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>>>> >>>>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>>>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>>>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>>>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>>>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>>>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/880d1371/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:51:43 -0500 > From: Lea Murphy <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > Message-ID: <6399EC7F-856B-4F72-AA3B-A11A4AC343F5@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Thank you. > > Lea > > your kids . my camera . we'll click > www.leamurphy.com > > > > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> http://www.inkpro2day.com/ >> >> Randy S. Little >> http://www.rslittle.com/ >> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Lea Murphy <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Randy, >> >> What third party ink are you using in your 3800? >> >> I?ve a 3880 and would consider another brand. >> >> Lea >> >> your kids . my camera . we'll click >> www.leamurphy.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> If you get large format printers they work totally different then the smaller printers and there will be no head issues with either. If you don't use either enough the heads will need to be cleaned to clear clogs but its nothing like how a say epson 2200 is totally ruined or take 6 gallons of ink to clean. I use my epson 3800 seldom anymore and I have to run a clean every time. Since its inks are SO MUCH cheaper then smaller format printers and there are VERY VERY good 3rd party inks I am very very happy. >>> >>> Randy S. Little >>> http://www.rslittle.com/ >>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Could you name some high end type 1 printers? >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2015 2:06 PM, "Dan Mitchell" <danmdan3842@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> The printer you buy, and the ink you use depends on how often you need to use the printer. >>> >>> There are 2 distinct types of printer - one (1) has the heads/jets integral with the ink tanks, while the other (2) has non-removable heads/jets as a fixed part of the printer plus use simple ink-tank(s). >>> >>> With a type 1 printer you can use after-market ink, since the heads/jets are changed with the cartridge, so if an ink jet gets unclearably blocked all you need to do is replace the ink cartridge. However with a type 2 printer an unclearable printing jet (nozzle or whatever it is called) means an expensive service charge to dissemble the printer and clean the captive heads; sometimes it spells death to that printer. >>> >>> I left a type 2 Epson unused for a few months and it never was able to work again, no amount of head cleaning freed the gummed-up jets, and the service cost was higher than the cost of a new one. So now I always buy a type 1 printer as I seldom do much color printing these days, partly due to the excessive ink costs. And thus one answer to the O.P. is if you have a type 2 printer it is perhaps best to use only the maker?s inks as hopefully they are less likely to clog the printing heads. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 17 Mar 2015, at 11:00, photoforum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. printer ink (Bob) >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:06:29 -0400 >>>> From: Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> >>>> To: PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: printer ink >>>> Message-ID: <55078C25.10208@xxxxxxxx> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> My Canon Pro 9000 died and I bought Pro 9000 MkII. When I had my first >>>> Canon photo printer the print head died and the guy at the service shop >>>> told me to use Canon ink. He was very serious to the point that he >>>> replaced my aftermarket in with Canon ink at no charge. Havin been in >>>> computer service for forty years and being used to using "our" ink I >>>> only used Canon ink in the Pro 9000. >>>> >>>> Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with aftermarket ink? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.rit.edu/mailman/private.cgi/photoforum/attachments/20150317/720e2391/attachment.html> > > End of PhotoForum Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > *****************************************
