Re: Effort

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I find myself sometime shooting too few pictures using diigtal, and it has taken me a good 3 years to get the idea.
Now when I take pictures of kids I try to take bursts to be sure I capture their facial expressions.
Also with macros of insects shooting a few at a time helps.

But yeah I agree most of the effort has benn lost, just like with everything else.
Like my mom said, " I was happy when a TV was a TV, a phone a phone and a radio a radio" ;)



On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob I shoot a zillion more images and put just as much thought into them.   And as I learned working for Arnold Newman sometimes its the shots you think won't work that end up working.   Just because you limit your ability to experiment doesn't mean you will get a better picture and vis versa.  Just because you CAN shoot a zillion shots doesn't mean you will or won't get better work.  But the ability to experiment more and not have it cost a billion dollars in polaroid is far from a bad thing.  

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
One night after a club meeting in the early days of digital photography a couple club members met for coffee after the meeting.  One of the guys was telling us how he just shot hundreds of pix with a model. 

I asked how many he would have shot with film.  His answer was one or two rolls.  I then asked how much thought and time he put into each of the hundreds of shots.    No answer.

A retired pro across the table looked at me and just smiled.  It was a knowingly smile.....

Bob

On 1/2/2014 9:47 AM, Jan Faul wrote:

For the really lazy and uninitiated, this is one place where film comes from in big boxes : http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
Of course they ship, and also sell everything you could ever need to take pictures except for a couple of things, i.e. patience, skill, curiosity, talent. 

I don’t think anybody will miss your lack of effort Don.

On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Randy Little wrote:

and don't forget with HDR capture you can make the zone system look simplistic.   Sure people do a lot of gimmicky crap with it but a lot of work is just done well and looks nice.   I still know of no phone camera that is easy to use in terms of user interface.     My 8x10 is less convoluted then the menu systems on some phones.     



On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Dan Mitchell <danmdan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dan Mitchell
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And what a convenience it is !  No more darkroom, no more smelly chemicals, no more stained carpets and baths, no drying, no glazing - these are but a few of the "conveniences"  we now can and (mostly) do enjoy.  If we had to have the least convenience we would all be going back to horse drawn portable darkrooms and wet plates.

Recently I did indeed use what some would still call a "real" camera - when I found a place which still sold "real" film for one of my tiny vintage collection - but what an effort (and cost) it all was - nope, I think for me effort is just not worth it.

As I may have said before in this column - when I was 40 years younger I longed for a Hasselblad, now I can easily afford a good 500CM - but sheer effort of getting film, loading film, developing and printing same - is frankly now beyond me - yup, I'm lazy now - it's SO easy just taking a phone out of one's pocket that I doubt I'll ever use film again. R.I.P.

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>> From: Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: Olympus camera news.....
>> Date: 31 December 2013 23:21:53 GMT
>> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Cameras are not being replaced by smartphones, but effort is being replaced by convenience and laziness.
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