: There are some effect you can't get in Photoshop that you can get on a : film camera. I tried multiple times to duplicates certain techniques but : haven't succeeded in Photoshop yet but I just had another idea about how it : could be done. absolutely. I'm still very much a film user and believe film and film cameras have strengths digital cannot match. Like the topic being discussed in another thread regarding power. As long as I have my thumb, I get my shots :) as to the other idea, I'd love to hear it. regarding overlays, as an excersize I did some multiple exposure shots on film and through a succession of overlaid digital shots replicated the shots very closely, but not by spending time 'crafting' the shots in photoshop - I actioned them. However, if I wanted a specific effect it was certainly a lot easier to determine the bias on an individual layer or element in a layer to get what I was after in a digital environment. ..and I'm still keen to get myself a film burner.. I want my good digital shots back on something I see as more reliable than a hard drive or CD :) : Also to duplicate some of Andy's techniques like the last figure study : on the weekly Saturday exhibit would entail writing a new complex filter : for Photoshop. I missed the image you're refering to - if it was one of Andy's panned rotational shots then the hardware might be more important than the software :) karl