Re: Rear curtain synch question

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The original post stated he was asked to "re-create a shot by another photographer for a job." To me, that says the client has a shot that works but does not want to pay an appropriate fee to the creator, and therefore provides the image to photographer #2 and asks him to duplicate it, which is clearly a violation of copyright. If photographer #2 is asked to use a similar technique, or put his own spin on a similar subject matter, that MAY be a different issue, but that was only clear after several posts.

Out of safety and respect for others, if a client asks me to look at an image as a reference, I usually decline to look, and approach the creation of the image in my own way.


Jeff
On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Mark Blackwell wrote:

The way I understand it (and I am no lawyer, don't play one on tv and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night either) is an IDEA can not be copyrighted. If you use a particular photo as inspiration to create another, that isn't stealing. Change a little something here ect and its your work. An exact duplicate is a bit more of an issue.

Though you might have been the creator, you may very well be looking at an expensive legal process to prove you created your own work and didn't steal it from some place. Even then some gray can appear and it may very well be different from place to place as to what is considered a copy.


--- On Mon, 9/8/08, ADavidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: ADavidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Rear curtain synch question
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 5:15 PM
Roy,

Does copyright then imply that it is the exact same image?
How exact is exact?
I guess the hands and rings wedding shot is not
copyrightable either? Hmmm ...
food for thought. I still think that
"appropriations" is squirrely. ;)

andy




PhotoRoy6@xxxxxxx wrote:


Copyright doesn't apply if you doing 2nd curtain
synch since the original
photography is first curtain synch. Copyright
doesn't  apply unless you
duplicate the scene like having the pews at the same
angles,  have the model wearing a
similar dress etc. Copyright is violated when the
results look like the
original.
   I don't think an act of dropping a drop of
fluid  into a liquid is
copyrightable because the outcome will vary. It would
take  quite a bit of talent
and time to make such a picture match a previous one
in  terms of splash
positions, sizes. getting the light from the same
angle  etc.
Roy






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