Marilyn, I use a converted Canon 30D IR-only camera. It is fairly new and I got it from http://maxmax.com/ A lot of folks on the IR list use LifePixel for conversions http://lifepixel.com/ Rene -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marilyn Dalrymple Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:44 AM To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Re: off topic Hi Rene, Did you use a filter to get the infrared shots? If not, how did you get them? Marilyn