Thak you all for the replies. Mark I read your article and found it very informitive , thanks. Im still feel very uninformed , so I'm going to hold off for a while. I rented the lights again for the weekend. Its rental fees and a little extra are coverd by my very first client :) Please take a look and give me any input you will :) Thanks, jd http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4853/smallhorzdn7.jpg This one is for me , Im going to work on it to try to make it feel a little more rich and less monochromatic http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/resource/images/imageEntryId/181 But i would really like to do something with the shadows. Any pointers or ideas? thanks again :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:29 AM, herschel <herschel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It is interesting to note how my flash-power requirements have changed with > trends in photography. > > Now that shallow depth of field is trendy, I have a slew of f:1.4 and f:1.8 > lenses which I'm using on my D2X. (The 85mm f:1.4 is a honey!) > > With smaller sensor sizes/decreased magnification, and the resulting > increase of DOF, you need very fast and expensive lenses to make your pics > look like they were shot on a $5 Lomo. > > But I do love those natural light, backlit, lifestylish images with shallow > DOF that are popular in commercial photography these days. > Portraits by window-light at f:2.0 (Carefully focused) knock the spots off > those f:22 old-fashioned studio images with perfect light ratios > > I find that my 2400WS pack is out of service and even my 500W Bowens heads > are too powerful to get apertures of f:4 or wider... so I have now bought a > collection of ND filters... mmm at 55 I'm a spendoid-trendoid! > > Still it's cheaper than going 4X5 digital. > > Before you tell me to shoot large format film and scan it etc... > Here in Oman we don't have 4X5 E6 film processing available. Nor do I have a > scanner which could handle it. > > That's all folks > > herschel > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner- > >>photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Davis > >>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:10 AM > >>To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > >>Subject: Looking to buy some strobe flashes > >> > >>Hello, > >> I'm a total newb at lighting. I have rented some strobes and I really > >>like playing with them. But its costing me $125 a day for 2 lights , > >>umbrellas , stands , battery pack, > >>wireless sync thing.. > >> > >>I have no clue if thats a good price or not.. Anyway , I see lots of > >>affordable lights for sale on the internet , and the owner of the > >>store i rent from offerd me 2 > >>300w/s strobe heads for $700. I cant remember the brand name :\ To > >>finaly get to the ponit... :p Can you guys point me at some > >>information for beginners looking > >>to buy lights? Stuff that can help me figure out what i want/need and > >>information to help me know what kind of price I should look to pay. > >> > >>Thank You, > >>Jason > >