Me on YouTube :o) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5nOrT2Uvrk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKfPKu5PzQc OK, both takes were "edit in camera" on real old fashioned film. Both films (Super 8mm and 16mm) were cross processed and telecined. The results ... Rob OK: to put it "on topic" the stills are here ... http://www.petewallington.co.uk/16mm/index.htm One question: can anyone think of a title? :o) __________________________________________________ Get an exclusive discount on Norton 360 from Tiscali http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/securepc