RE: Film or Digital? The Eternal Question!

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You are in 12-bitland until you actually open the image in Photoshop.
Everything done in Adobe Camera Raw is 12-bit and you then choose to open it in
Photoshop as a 16-bit or 8-bit file.

Herschel

--- Veli Izzet Cigirgan <veli.izzet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Herschel,
>  
> When in ACR you are in the 8-bit mode, does this mean that you are doing
> 8-bit manipulations IN the ACR, or does it mean that you are doing
> manipulations in the native 12-bit mode and go down to 8-bit mode when going
> into PS after RAW conversion?
>  
> The same question stated in a differerent way for 16-bit. At what step in
> the RAW conversion process does the image become 16-bit?
>  
> Veli Izzet
> 
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> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
> Subject: Re: Film or Digital? The Eternal Question!
> 
> 
> But Bob, that IS my point!
> Once you've done the fundamental stuff in whatever raw converting software
> takes your fancy, then the way to go forth is via 8-bit.
> 
> Qkano <wildimages@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > But alas this is not so and I have found by experiment that it makes no
> difference if I convert my 12-bit Raw file to 8-bit or
> 16-bit, PROVIDED that in the end I convert the 16-bit to 8-bit anyway.
> 
> Sorry to repeat, but in a way you've skipped the absolutely key step.
> 
> That in converting from RAW to 8 bit you have already taken decisions (or is
> the conversion totally automated?) about what
> information from the raw file to use. You've done most of the major
> adjustment work already. It's therefore no surprise that there
> is no (sic) difference in a 16-bit and 8-bit workflow from that point on.
> 
> I know you're not just a wee snapper - and I agree that once a picture is
> nearly right (you've got the white and black points nailed
> and the tones balanced across the range) there's probably little advantage -
> by then though the work's been done.
> 
> Then again: I do wonder (speculate) about the future.
> Can we really see no difference or is that because we have not the 16-bit
> output hardware to compare it with? If it ever arrives
> would anyone regret not having future proofed ...
> 
> I really don't know.
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Herschel Mair
> Head of the Department of Photography,
> Higher College of Technology
> Muscat
> Sultanate of Oman 
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Herschel Mair
Head of the Department of Photography,
Higher College of Technology
Muscat
Sultanate of Oman 
Adobe Certified instructor
 
+ (986) 99899 673
 
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