--- In photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bob Maxey <written_by@...> wrote: > I took a brief look at the page and I think you are wrong, Richard. I seem to recall a line about the photographer retaining copyright. I skimmed and I could be wrong, however. The rules state that the entrant must own the copyright for any submitted images but I don't see anything about the photographer retaining that after submission. On the other hand, I don't see anything stating that the photographer doesn't retain the copyright. I guess an email to <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> could clarify things for anyone pondering this. > If you retain copyright, you own the image and you are free to use it anyway you want. If you give NG unlimited rights, they also have the right to use it. You compete with NG and they compete with you. Right. That's always been my understanding. > You do not need to enter if the rules bother you. Fair or not, they tell you upfront what's what. I agree. It doesn't affect me because photo contests are not my thing. My point in emerging from lurker status was simply to try and clarify the difference between usage rights and copyright. > For fun, try looking at the rights Yahoo has to materials posted to these groups. Terms are somewhere on their site and as I recall, you give Yahoo some rights to use almost anything posted to their web site. You also give them the right to assign their rights to others you might not know anything about. You're right, Bob. Something to keep in mind. Richard