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Alan, are you referring to the post below by me, Don, not Bob. Or
another post. If you mean my post, please reread it. I was bemoaning
that people did not look into other areas of photography or consider
them important like their own interests. I think that goes along with
what you just said below. I feel the biggest impediment to reaching
any conclusion here is the nature of email. It is to easy to
misunderstand the spirit in which a comment was made. By the time you
can get back to it, the message has been quoted, edited, requoted,
misconstrued and turned into something other than what it was. I have
the utmost regard for your opinions as well as your images FWIW. Now
if you really meant Bob, not Don, never mind. Don lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Cripes, Bob who's being contentious here. Nobody is saying you have to like a picture. The point was that if you really care about something why not learn about it in some depth? Even casual hobbyists gain more enjoyment by refining their tastes and understanding. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 4Th ed. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Bell Peppers From: Don Roberts <droberts@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, February 06, 2006 7:37 pm To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Elson, don't for a minute consider yourself ignorant or a failure because you don't see much in Weston's peppers. I have been involved in photography as a livelihood and and a personal compulsion for over 50 years and I never saw much in those photos either except as an exercise in lighting. The only thing in this thread that amazes me is that so many intelligent, experienced photographers seem to be reluctant to admit that there are many different kinds of photography besides what drives them and many different preferences in visual {and other) forms. Too many here make the assumption that art drives the photo bus, or scenics, or science, or self exploration. The truth, and you all know it, is that there are many equally valid uses and applications for any form of human endeavor. Get your heads out of your respective body parts and read what people are saying and take a little time to think before you leap screaming into the fray. My friends and I often recommend movies, plays, books or music to each other and then ask what the other person thought. If they don't share our enthusiasm, that's okay. They are not me; I am not them. It would be a hell of a boring world if we all liked the same things and thought alike. But that's my viewpoint. You are not me. If you prefer to scream and shout and run about, feel free. I just get tired of seeing ill considered opinions and misinterpretations blown into tirades about photographic heresies. This seems to be becoming an increasingly contentious age so perhaps we are all victims of the times. Sad thought. Don Roberts Elson T. Elizaga wrote:Forgive my ignorance and my failure to see. I'm astonished about my comment myself. Sometimes I share with other photographers the same or similar reaction to an admired photograph -- such as "Afghan Girl" by Steve McCurry -- sometimes I don't. In my place, I sometimes find myself watching a movie, such as "Mystic River" (and recently "Beautiful Boxer"), and discovered only less than people with me. But I love these films. I've just been watching "Seven Samurai" and "Hidden Fortress" by Akira Kurosawa (who else?), but I'm not moved -- perhaps, not yet -- by Weston's "Pepper". I've read some articles about the photograph. But then, it's a photograph, it's supposed to strike us by its being a photograph, not by the volumes of text about it, right? lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Elson, I am astonished by your comment. If you are seriously interested in photography look at a lot of it and read what is being said about it. I just saw a magnificent Weston exhibit and even after decades of seeing his prints (the real prints) I was deeply moved by there clarity of intent and perfection. Perhaps because he is one of the most imitated photographers along with Adams his work may not seem special to you. I am not bashing Elson, AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 4Th ed. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us -- On the whole, human beings want to be good, but not too good, and not quite all the time. George Orwell |
