don't encourage him Greg! back to the printer dots for a moment... Karl If you think a few printer dots are worrying ... what about the traceable info in email header ... In your message you said: Return-Path: <owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Received: from mwinf3003.me.freeserve.com (mwinf3003.me.freeserve.com) by mwinb3006 (SMTP Server) with LMTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:07:31 +0100 X-Sieve: Server Sieve 2.2 Envelope-to: BobTalbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3003.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AAA6B1C03599 for <BobTalbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:07:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from filer2.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.2.226]) by mwinf3003.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E5411C0358E for <BobTalbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:07:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051103140731320.4E5411C0358E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.osfmail.rit.edu by osfmail.rit.edu (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30844) id <0IPD00E01TUEA4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for BobTalbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from host (filer2.rit.edu [129.21.2.226]) by osfmail.rit.edu (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30844) id <0IPD00D01TU9L9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (original mail from owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from host (filer2.rit.edu [129.21.2.226]) by osfmail.rit.edu (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30844) with SMTP id <0IPD00I5FTU6E9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.osfmail.rit.edu by osfmail.rit.edu (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30844) id <0IPD00H01TRW6C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (ORCPT photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.199]) by osfmail.rit.edu (PMDF V6.2-X17 #30844) with ESMTP id <0IPD00D0BTRSY4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> for photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (ORCPT photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx); Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 203-166-233-27.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO Karl) ([203.166.233.27]) by ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony5.iinet.net.au with SMTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:04:38 +0800 Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:03:41 +0800 From: karl shah-jenner <shahjen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: metadata Sender: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-id: <00fd01c5e07f$65a7eea0$0f00010a@LAN> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-RIT-Received-From: 129.21.2.226 X-RIT-Received-From: 203.59.1.199 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== References: <9113A273F6C50148887165087C84E07702343C2F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.2.10/991025/16:55 -- ListProc(tm) by CREN X-me-spamlevel: not-spam X-me-spamrating: 1.231130