Re: Gallery of 30th July - Jim's Hawk

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Dan, there are no hard and fast rules for me on snow like making it middle gray. You pick a contrast you think works, make the highlights white and that is it. If you have a cloudy day you can make all of the snow gray since you have no modeling anyway. Not middle gray, of course. That is not good visual sense. Oh, and by the way, you put your picture of the model up in a semi public forum which solicits critiques. Unless we consider it to be an abstract than the criticisms, which are opinions, are perfectly valid. I was going to say that you seem to be taking the critiques personally but I won't. Gee, I guess I just did. You may not like our opinions but you made it "our business" when you submitted. Just my friendly opinion. If you like it, the model likes it that's great. Your photo succeeded.
Don

Dan C wrote:
When you say "gray" do you mean middle gray?  This is what you get when you
meter off the snow and use that reading directly, and for me that results
in a really dull photo.  I like to place my snow at Zone VII or VIII,
basically white with just a hint of texture.  The parts where the sun are
reflecting off it should of course be pure white (paper white), similar to
specular hilites from chrome metal.
JMHO,

-dan c.

At 12:58 PM 29-08-05 -0500, Don Roberts wrote:


Gregory Fraser wrote:

most exposure faults are subject-errors not camera errors ... heck, if
snow wants to be exposed right then it should have been grey!


Wow! I've thought that exact same thing for years but was too timid to

take on the 'snow is white' lobbyists.

Greg



I have said that for years, Greg, but got no acknowledgment.  The
only place snow is white is in the highlights.  Elsewhere it's gray
or blue or purple etc. And I have a photo in next week's Gallery that may provoke some comments like that.
Don
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