> I've learned far more from using outdated, >inadequate, home-made, ugly, underpowered, >half-dead, broken software, computers and >photography equipment than I ever learned using >the latest, most automated stuff. Greg Now you are just being controversial for the sake of it! Surely you go away believing you know more about focussing (for instance) if you only ever use AF? For sure, you learn very early it is impossible to focus properly on a manual focus camera - once you've ingrained that there is no more to learn. And what about exposure? As long as you read the advertising brochure about how good the internal algorithms are you will quickly learn that most exposure faults are subject-errors not camera errors ... heck, if snow wants to be exposed right then it should have been grey! The main advantage of auto-everything everything is that it leaves the "photographer" to concentrate on the business side of photography ... though no doubt CS3 will help there by automatically using fuzzy-matching routines (so named because most of the pictures fed into it are fuzzy?) to decide which image libraries to mail proofs to. All the photog will have to do is open the pay cheque each month, no doubt subtracting it's tithe ... B