Bob: But there is a saying in business: if you want customers in your shop you : have to make the door easy to open. If it hadn't been a PF member I'd have : given up within 10 seconds never to return. Onmy win98 box, Opera 7 didn't get me there, neither did OB1 (v3.2.j.2 ;-) nor did IE 5.50.4134.0600IC bailed after attempting a few times across a few days :-/ PS - brought to my attention elsewhere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7532689700 damn shame they didn't think it through further - a golden opportunity to make a stereo pinhole camera! :-) k