<<Note the two sentences? I said, "All photographers have a vision." Fact is, they do. Just listen to a gaggle of gathered grand photographers, and it is vision this, vision that. Their images come from their soul, their vision is . . . Give me a break. >> You are listening to artists' talking not photographers ;o) Mozt photographers I know (defined by them owning cameras and taking snapshots:) have never stated they have a vision, they take pictures, period. I take Jeff's point about vision well though: for people that care about composition when they take a photo, there is a part of the photographer that enters the picture. It's more comples these days because with the all-pervasive PhotoShoppery there is room for the vision to enter later :o0 its overstating it IMO to say that all or even most have a vision. <<My picture of The long gone Salt Lake Telegram Building is simply a picture of an old building and nothing more. No vision, just a record photograph of an old facade.>> Hahahahah ... you just have not realised yet. That is YOUR vision. << I was talking about what I look for. In a word, Sharpness. Regardless, it will always be sharpness. It is my cross to bear.>> In the post-PhotoShop world I hve less and less reason to attempt to capture blurry (out of focus or low depth of field) images in camera. There is no need. I can take a sharp image and create my hazy, grainy, "vision" later :o). Going the reverse route is all but impossible - and is totally impossible if images are saved as jpeg at only 8-bits per channel! <<I have no vision. I want sharpness.>> You have no vision. I'm not an artist. Whadda we doing here? :o) Bob Bob ... <<Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com>> Stuff that! -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm