My interpretation of what you said was that craftsmanship is taught...the process is taught. I disagree in the sense that I will never be able to learn to do it as he (I don't believe this can be taught). Also, I do not differentiate between art and craft other than a point in process...art being the finished product.
For instance, John Dillinger and Harry Houdini were crafty...some might have even called them escape artists...many have died trying to repeat what they did!
Veli Izzet Cigirgan <izzet@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Veli Izzet Cigirgan <izzet@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Trevor,You say you fully disagree, but you do not disagree at all. I am using your words as I do not know you and your friend. You are taught the craftsmanship, but you don't have the extra to make you an artist as he is, since art can not be taught.The fault may lie in my writing, as English is not my mother language and I may have missed some nuances while trying to convey my ideas, but I do not see any conflict with what I have written and what you wrote below.Cheers,Veli Izzet
From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of trevor cunningham
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:46 AM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on 05 FEB 05)Ted Williams said it best, "The hardest thing to do in sports is hit a round ball with a round stick." Swinging a bat could fall into the craft category in that the technique can be taught, the timing can be taught, the stance can be taught...but the odds that you'll be like Ted Williams at the plate are slim to none.I had a roomate in Oregon who made some of the most unusual/amazing furniture I'd ever seen...I think I've mentioned him before. Anyway, his craftsmanship was flawless when it came to wood. I made the mistake of calling him a carpenter one day, whereupon, I was corrected that he was an artist whose current medium happened to be wood.Crafts on the other hand is skillful implementation of something. Crafts can
be taught, crafts result in pleasant and functional items (both tangible and
intangible).I fully disagree. My father was a carpenter. He and his brothers and my brother have built homes. I can saw, nail, hell, I might even be able to frame if given the chance. But I could never be taught to do what this man can do with a set of tools. Art is the final product, craft is the process that is practiced to produce the art.
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