> Macrimedia is spyware. When it is installed you automatically give > permission for macromedia to "monitor" how your computer is used. You may > consider this secure but I do **not**. Dave For a private site it's up the the site owner really - if they want to make thier work less accessible then demanding that visitors install something to visit is one way to go. For a business site (attempting to sell stuff) it would be crazy: by all means provide "rich" content for people who have the means to view it but don't forget the efficient use of the applet tag: that is to provide alternative content for those without. Personally, I find Flash a waste of time (I mean TIME in the literal sense). At work we don't have a choice: nobody gets to install anything through the firewall. Flash is not considered business-critical so we don't have it. One of the worst things with most flash presentations is that the authors don't follow any accessibility guideleines. The author chooses the font size and colour scheme you **WILL** view it at. Recent versions of flash do address the accessibiltiy issue I gather but it's down to the author to enable it. With HTML it's much easier: you set your browser to ignore restrictive CSS and font attributes. For commercial sites (used for business) non-accessible content is potentially illegal (or soon will be I bet). For private sites I guess there is nothing to stop the old "Best viewed on my PC" school of web design ;o) Bob