The newest driver from Epson supports some borderless printing. For my current application I'm trimming the prints with a rotary trimmer to remove the borders, slow but good. I did run into an installation process bug with the new drivers, and Epson 2nd level support talked me through fixing it, with no charge. I use the minimize margins options on the page layout tab of the print properties window. It warns you about possible fading at the lower edge of the print, but as yet I haven't seen it. The "Printer Basics" pdf file describes which papers can be used for borderless printing on the 2200. Hope this helps, Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu [mailto:owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu] On Behalf Of David Rayfield Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:10 PM To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Re: Epson 2200 you can gain some control over your margins "through a back door." under properties, page layout, go to "advanced" followed by "continue." press the button for double-sided printing and work the buttons that then appear. check "top" and "centered" and set the counter to 118: this will give you a slightly larger margin at the bottom of the print than at the top, with the side margins being equal. when the printing is finished press "stop" to turn off the two-sided printing feature. i'm writing this at the office from memory and in respect to ps7, but i think it's correct. i belieeve, but am not sure, that the 2200 will allow for borderless prints in some sizes. later. david -----Original Message----- From: Alberto Tirado <fotodiseno2003@yahoo.com> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Epson 2200 > Can someone tell me how much margin the 2200 > automatically puts on a > page when printing a full 8.5 x 11" sheet? Gasp! Never measured as of today, but its about 1/8 on each the Top, Left and Right, and a bit more than 1/2 on the bottom. Adobe Illustrator automatically draws the correct margins when you set-up your working document. I tried drawing a box from the margin-out, but I can't find the object info! Anyway, HTH. ===== ____________ Alberto Tirado __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com To be a useful person has always appeared to me to be something particularly horrible. --Charles Baudelaire