thank you, Tom, for your words. ?A nude with an obscured face. Not totally obscured, but not so's you can see into it and determine anything about the person. Terribly even light and soft focus really removes the dimension from the body. Presumably that's what the photographer wanted. But I remain interested in the person, not the body.? ironically, part of the interpretation is mentioned therein. could not soft focus, washed out features, and a ?look away? say something about a person? in my opinion, and clinical opinion, it is how a person behaves rather than his/her eyes that give insight to the soul. ?body language? comes to mind. if i failed to convey a mood of veiled, silent obscurity, then i have indeed failed in the image, but it was clearly stated these were noticed. i have done, and will continue to do ?Sears? portrait eye shots?: {http://www.motionless-continuum.com/lou1.swf" }http://www.motionless-continuum.com/lou1.swf some subjects (models) require more than a film can capture. some interpretations require more just the same. regards; Will _____________________________________________________ ___________ Jim Davis wrote: > It's sad really when a photograph of a person does not show eyes or > face. I mean it's just a lump of flesh. This photo would work if the > guy was looking right into the camera. Not so. Anybody can stare into a camera and give a little smile. Does the eyes always tell the truth? Can you always trust a person that looks you straight in the eyes? Are we not dealing here with some romantic, but hopelessly wrong, conceptions? The eyes does not tell it all. What you don't see in the eyes, you have to decode from the body; the pose, the gesture, the movements. That's how dancers express their art, and that is also an important part of ordinary person to person communication. I don't know where this assumption comes from, that to express some human condition you must see the eyes. Just as much, and often even much more, can be said with the body. In addition to this, I find the looking-away interesting: what happens when we (or the model with whom we may identify) looks away? what do we not see? And the gesture of the body suddenly becomes important as the spell the eyes had on our seeing is lifted. As someone said about the thriller/horror movies: It's when you look away that the horror grabs you! (Hitchcock or von Trier or both...) Just my thoughts... Thomas ------- End of forwarded message -------