Of me: > > "digital files cannot be made uncopyable, any more than water can be made > > not wet." Brian writes: > Huh? Perhaps you've totally missed the point. He doesn't "support" it, > any more than I "support" the claim that there are no even prime numbers > greater than 2. It just happens to be true. I guessed he didn't support it Brian, I was just wondering about the absolute that water cannot be made 'not wet'. I can think of at least one way to accomplish that task, and I wonder if there will in fact one day be a non-hostile version of accomplishing the same thing with digital images on the net. To music for a moment, if I can hear it, irrespective of the copyright protection - then there are ways to record it - no getting around that, but images.. hmmmm. I can envisage some smart cookie out there devising a 'reader' for images which utilise screen refresh rates to compile fragmentary images on a screen, while purging or encrypting the non-visible components of the whole. This would provide a viewable image without a whole image to pinch.. or is this just fantasy? don't know, but I find it hard to cope with the concept of 'impossible' > Supposing the Disney Government decided - in its infinite wisdom - that > wet T-shirts were one of the biggest evils facing the American Family > Way: it is, isn't it? (You're not trying to provoke anyone here, are you Brian? ;-) two possible ways of enforcing a ban would be (a) draconian > penalties for wetting a T-shirt (10 years in jail minimum) coupled with > Orwellian snooping, or simply (b) banning all access to water, except > under government supervision. What is not very plausible is (c) > legislation ordaining that all T-shirts will be unwettable. all pointless, for laws 'prevent' nothing. One person does it, it's done - but we agree on this I imagine. > The last is the level of stupidity of the "we're going to stop copying" > lobby. <clip>This > means a "war on lenses", which makes about as much sense, and has as > much chance of success as the "war on drugs" or the "war on terror". I happily concede your point given the options being discussed, but still wonder if there will one day be a method, not enforced by any idiotic law, but by the choice of the image owner whereby someone can view an image without having unauthorised access to reproduce it. non-wetting water - simple! Make it solid. karl