I do not know of any for C++. That's why I started my own (which is not the one used for the problem I am having :- ) ) http://github.com/vladp/CppOrm it works with Pg 8.3+ and VC++ compiler sofar (but support for more platforms and Dbs will be added in the future). My Orm is not really an ORM because I did not implement anything that would 'traverse' object instance relationships (which is what the ORM in question here is doing). Instead I just automagically generate SQL code for insert/update/deletes for classes that map to tables (one-to-one). The basic problem is that C++ standards comittee in my view just sucks... i do not have any better words for it. It is because of lack of reflection (ability to identify at runtime variable names/functions names) that an ORM, or HTTP session storage/retrival mechanism, JSON/XML parsers that parse text right into class instances -- cannot be implemented Basically the things that are needed to deal with 'Typeless' data at runtime (such that XML/JSON/Database queries) and map that data to the C++ object instances. Which is in the 'high-level view' why C++ is not used for web development. Yes there are 'attempts' in that area -- but all are different, require quite a bit of sophistication and are not complete (The reflection mechanism I implemented for my cpporm is not complete either). If C++ would have supported Reflection -- the there would be C++_Hibernate, C++_LINQ, C++_json, C++_xml, C++_HTTP, C++_HTTPSession and so on... (and no they would have been memory hogs -- thanks to now standard reference counting in C++ via shared_ptr and good use of allocators) sorry for the rant, still looking for any bright ideas on optimizing for many small queries/local db host situations. Thanks On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:45 -0400, "Tom Lane" <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > "V S P" <toreason@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > Well, actually > > somebody has written a C++ ORM > > [ that is causing all your problems and you say you can't discard ] > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know of any ORM anywhere that doesn't > suck? They seem to be uniformly awful, at least in terms of their > interfaces to SQL databases. If there were some we could recommend, > maybe people would be less stuck with these bogus legacy architectures. > > regards, tom lane -- Vlad P author of C++ ORM http://github.com/vladp/CppOrm/tree/master -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general