hi, i've been getting nonsensical error messages all day with postgres 8.3 on winxpsp3. i tried upgrading to 8.3.6 (enterprisedb) and fresh installs. i get either of the following errors: PANIC: could not open control file "global/pg_control": Permission denied postgres cannot access the server configuration file "C:/app/postgres/data/postgresql.conf": No such file or directory even though both files are present and accessible to the postgres user. at some point i tried giving the postgres user full control over these files and the directories they were in but it made no difference. i didn't expect it to since the permissions looked correct to begin with. if i have ssl=off in my postgresql.conf file i can start the server with "net start pg-plus-8.3" but: if i try to start it with "pg_ctl start -D C:/app/postgres/data" i get the postgresql.conf error message. if i have ssl=on in my postgresql.conf file (and server.{crt,key,req} files in the data directory) then "net start pg-plus-8.3") doesn't work but it gives no reason (and no log messages) and "pg_ctl start -D C:/app/postgres/data" gives the global/pg_control error message. no. i'm flipping ssl on and off now it's staying with the global/pg_control error. i looked this error up in the mailing list archives and only found 1 mention of it 2 years ago with no real resolution. does anyone have an idea about what's happening. it seems i can only run postgres on windows with ssl=off and i want to force the use of ssl. i'd also like the pg_ctl start/stop commands to work again because they give actual error messages unlike the net start/stop commands. are they supposed to work with enterprisedb? i've seen them working on another windows enterprisedb installation that i set up a while ago. cheers, raf -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general