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On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote:

Hi,

(Note: I have never used log shipping before, I'm just interested in the concepts, so I'm might be missing a very important aspect)

I was reading the blog entry about HA and warm standby:
http://scale-out-blog.blogspot.com/2009/02/simple-ha-with-postgresql-point-in-time.html

The image that explained how log shipping works, strikes me as being a bit too complex. <http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_26KnjtB2MFo/SYVDrEr1HXI/AAAAAAAAAEY/ncq_AW-Vv-w/s1600-h/pg_warm_standby.png >

According to the picture it basically works like this:

Master -> Copy master archive directory -> Copy to standby archive dir -> copy to pg_xlogs.

When I look at this chain I'm asking myself, why do I need the two archive directories?

Why can't the master copy the files directly into the pg_xlogs directory of the standby server?

Well, on the master the implementation has to be resilient to issues with the archive_command and Postgres re-uses files in the pg_xlog directory. If they weren't copied into the archive_status directory then if a file couldn't be shipped for some reason you'd run the risk of the file getting re-used before it was successfully pushed to the standby.

As to where they go on the standby, remember that log shipping is not just for warm standby implementation -- it's also a valid backup method, i.e. archive the transaction logs along with a snapshot of the data directory. In addition, the copy of a file into the pg_xlog directory needs to be atomic and there's no guarantee that any given archive_command will use a tool that does atomic copies.

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