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Re: Drupal and PostgreSQL - performance issues?

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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Mikkel Høgh wrote:

You are targetting DBAs using servers with less than 512 MB RAM. Is PostgreSQL supposed to be used by professional DBAs on enterprise systems or is it supposed to run out of the box on my old Pentium 3?

Take a look at http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11381

There you'll discover that the Linux default for how much memory an application like PostgreSQL can allocate is 32MB. This is true even if you install the OS on a system with 128GB of RAM. If PostgreSQL created a default configuration optimized for "enterprise systems", that configuration wouldn't even start on *any* Linux system with the default kernel settings. The above is an attempt to change that, rejected with the following text that aptly describes the default PostgreSQL configuration as well: "The requirement is that SHMMAX is sane for the user by default and that means *safe* rather than as big as possible". The situation on most other operating systems is similarly bad.

So the dichotomy here is even worse than you think: it's not just that the performance profile would be wrong, it's that defaults targeting modern hardware would make it so the database won't even start on your old Pentium 3. The best the PostgreSQL community can do is provide documentation on how you re-tune your *operating system first*, then the database server, to get good performance on systems with modern amounts of RAM.

Admittedly, that documentation and related support tools should be better, mainly by being easier to find. This discussion is well timed in that I was planning this month to propose adding a URL with a tuning guide and/or sample configurations to the top of the postgresql.conf file before the next release comes out; when that comes up I can point to this thread as a reminder of why that's needed.

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