On Mon, September 15, 2008 10:31 am, Roberts, Jon wrote: >>> 3. Software indemnification (which is open source's biggest problem) >>> >> >> Are you kidding?!? Read the EULA for Oracle or any other proprietary >> software package and then read the BSD license. They both indemnify >> about the same thing, i.e. nothing. If you have any examples in case >> law that show otherwise, they'd be a great thing to bring forth. > > The contracts you sign when you buy Oracle indemnify you from lawsuits. > For instance, Oracle bundles Apache with various products. If someone > sues a company for using Oracle HTTP Server because it uses Apache and > Apache was allegedly illegally contributed to by a rogue employee, then > Oracle protects their customers. > > After SCO went after companies using Linux, it is a concern of large > companies and worth the extra cost of paying Oracle for Apache rather > than using Apache all by itself. We all know how well that went... >>> 9. Deep, deep discounts. I've never seen any company pay list price >>> for Oracle products. It has always been at least 50% off if not >>> more. >> >> 50% off a price that's bloated by 1000% or more isn't much of a >> muchness. >> > It is only the perception of a good deal. So what? If you're comfortable wasting your company's money, then yes. "So what" applies. >>> 10. Sales employees that will do anything to retain or grow your >>> business. >> >> That's just great if you prefer hookers and blow to a working RDBMS. >> > LOL. That is pretty funny. I'm talking about doing free work like a > proof of concepts, demonstrations of products, etc. I've even seen > technical sales guys help out onsite for free for performance tuning an > application. Nothing is free with Oracle. They get your money eventually. This procedure = advertising expenses. >>> The initial price of the product factors into the equation for big >>> companies but when you look at all the value add of Oracle, it is >>> very tempting. >> >> Their sales and marketing people have certainly done an excellent job >> creating the perceptions above, among others, and spreading them around >> the industry. > > Perception = sales. Ignorance = sales as well.
