On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:58:39PM -0700, Richard Broersma wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Sam Mason <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > SELECT * FROM foo FULL OUTER CROSS JOIN bar; > > > > Admittedly, there aren't too many use cases for this! But it would make > > things a bit more regular. > > SELECT * FROM foo, bar; > > Isn't this have the same results, but with out the cross join? I hope not! Try running: SELECT * FROM (SELECT 1 AS a WHERE FALSE) f, (SELECT 2 AS b ) b; and then try: SELECT * FROM (SELECT 1 AS a WHERE FALSE) f FULL OUTER JOIN (SELECT 2 AS b ) b ON TRUE; I hope you get zero rows back from the first query, and a single row back from the second with a NULL value in the "a" column. Sam