Despite trying to be careful, I managed to mess up the upgrade from -8.1.4 to -8.3.3 on my Slackware-11.0 server/workstation. I expect that someone here will see my error and point me in the right direction to recover a working dbms. Here's what I did: 1.) As a user, I ran pg_dumpall on version 8.1.4 and had that written to /usr4/postgres-backups/. 2.) Created /usr4/pgsql_old/, and copied all of /var/lib/pgsql/ there ('cp -a /var/lib/pgsql/* .') 3.) In /usr4/pgsql_old/data/postgresql.conf, changed port to 5466. 4.) As root, ran '/etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql stop', which reported that's what it did. 5.) Built postgresql-8.3.3 using the SlackBuild script, then ran 'upgradepkg postgresql-8.3.3*tgz'; other than reporting not finding an expected pid file, that went smoothly. 6.) Tried starting the new version, /etc/rc.d/rc.postgresql start. It reported that the server was already running, but that it started anyway. 7.) A search of the process list could not find the postmaster process, or any other indication of pgsql running. Trying to run pgsql as a user also failed. Tried, as user postgres, to run 'pg_sql start' but that also failed. TIA, Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | Integrity Credibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. | Innovation <http://www.appl-ecosys.com> Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863