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Dear Greg,

Thanks for your valuable and extensive reply. You were right that it is the HP machine the client is wanting, I did also find a configuration that has a Quad Core Intel processor and they will probably go with that for continuity with their current hardware. The PostgreSQL database on the server is to be used as an authentication gateway for enterprise installations of SAP, SQL Server and a bunch of GIS and other data applications, so there won't be a big processing or data transfer load. There will be two identical machines each with a hot swap drive bay as well as an internal 160GB drive. Initially there will only be around 50 non concurrent users so again, low load. I have used PostgreSQL for around four years, but always on Intel chipsets and I had never thought to investigate processor brands. When the client mentioned AMD I thought "uh oh" this could be a black hole here.

I note your comments about disk controllers and will investigate that area too for our next, larger, install.

Thanks again and regards

John

Greg Smith wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, John Tregea wrote:

The machines would be running Windows XP Pro (our clients requirement). Can anyone tell me if PostgreSQL runs fine on the AMD platform and specifically does anyone have experience with the AMD Phenom™ Quad Core Processors 9600B.

Once you've settled on Windows as your PostgreSQL platform, you've kind of given up on prioritizing performance at that point--there's a couple of issues that limit how good that can possibly be no matter what hardware you throw at it. Details like which processor you're using are pretty trivial in comparision. Also, the real questions you should be asking are ones like "did I get a good disk controller for database use?" which is a really serious concern in this space. My guess is you're talking about an HP DC5850. I am rather skeptical of the disk subsystem in that system (at most two disks and just a crappy BIOS RAID) working well in a database context. It's probably fine for a non-critical system, but I wouldn't run a business on it.

In general, AMD has been lagging just a bit behind Intel's products recently on systems with a small number of sockets. There are occasional reports where multi-socket multi-core systems from AMD are claimed to do better than similar Intel systems due to AMD's better bus design, I haven't seen that big difference either way myself in recent products.

I've been using several different types of Opteron and X2 processors systems from AMD the last couple of years and typically they work just fine. But Phenom has really been a troubled platform launch for AMD and I think that's why nobody has offered any suggestions to you yet--I haven't heard any reports from people using that chip in a server environment yet.

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* Greg Smith gsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD



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