Hi Tim, Off the top of my head, from somewhat left field, using filesystems to manage this sort of effect. Would "real" tables in a tablespace defined on a ramdisk meet this need? So the functionality/accessibility of a physical table is provided, along with the performance of a filesystem actually residing in memory. Presumeably viable if you have the memory to spare & know the size of the temp tables won't exceed this. You could also mount a tablespace on a physical disk with a filesystem which has delayed/deferred writes to disk, so that if it is created & deleted quickly enough, it is never actually written to disk, but just generally sits in the cache. Cheers, Brent Wood >>> Bill Moran <wmoran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 06/06/08 8:01 AM >>> In response to Tim Tassonis <timtas@xxxxxxxx>: > > Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to Tim Tassonis <timtas@xxxxxxxx>: > > > >> > >> Now, with apache/php in a mpm environment, I have no guarantee that a > >> user will get the same postgresql session for a subsequent request, thus > >> he will not see the temporary table. > >> > >> Is there a way to create temporary tables in another way, so they are > >> visible between sessions, or do I need to create real tables for my > >> purpose? And is the perfomance penalty big for real tables, as they have > >> been written to disk/read from disk? > > > > Build a framework that creates the tables in a special schema, and then > > can access them through any session. Use some method to generate unique > > table names and store the names in the HTTP session. Create some sort > > of garbage collection routines that removes tables when they're no longer > > needed. > > > > The details of exactly how you pull this off are going to depend heavily > > on the rest of your application architecture. > > > > What you describe is what I referred to as "create real tables". I've > done that and it works, but I wondered if there's something similar > built in postgres apart from classical temporary tables. Not that I'm aware of. If you keep the mailing list in the CC, others can answer as well. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ wmoran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general