Paolo, Oh yes, I see it now. It was necessary to re-initialise the database in order for that to appear, which I have not done until now. Now I have a new problem. When I attempt to install postgres 8.3.1 with postgres automatically creating its own user account, the installer complains: "Service 'PostgreSQL Database Server 8.3'(pgsql-8.3) failed to start. Verify that you have sufficient priveleges to start system services." This, despite the fact that 4 postgres.exe processes are now visible in task manager, running as the just created postgres user. I believe that the installer creates accounts with the ability to start services, so this shouldn't be a problem. The account I run PGinstaller is an administrative account. This is a new user account, not one from a previous postgres install. I deleted all the older ones in the well hidden "Local Users and Groups" dialog. What should I do to prevent this messagebox from appearing, which forces me to roll back the installation? Regards, Peter