----- Original Message ----- From: "Zdenek Kotala" <Zdenek.Kotala@xxxxxxx> To: "Naz Gassiep" <naz@xxxxxxxx> Cc: "PostgreSQL" <pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Survey: renaming/removing script binaries (createdb, createuser...) > Naz Gassiep napsal(a): > > > > > We're not seriously thinking of changing these are we? Once a command > > set has been in use for as long a time as the PG command set has, any > > benefit that may be derived by new users with an aversion to > > documentation reading is vastly offset by the confusion that would > > result among long time users whos scripts, tools and mental mental > > processes all have the old names hardcoded in. > > Yes, I understand your point of view, but on other side there are arguments in > discussion, that for newbies old name are terrible to use and frankly, who reads > manual before he start to use a product? MG>I do and frankly anyone who buys a product without understanding how this fits into the existing system MG>with no doc..no wiki ..no users group..is asking for heachaches.. MG>The whole idea of OpenSource project is participate in a project in which everyone is passionate about MG>create intelligent doc, create a wiki and have an active users group > > > I can't imagine how there would be a nomenclature clash, if there is, > > then just take one of the tools out of the path, use symlinks or put > > calling scripts in the path instead. These are suboptimal solutions, > > granted, but *any* naming scheme we change to will be subject to the > > possibility of naming clashes with another package with a similar name, > > unless we make the binaries have long, verbose names. I don't know about > > you, but I don't fancy having to type "postgresqlclient dbname" to start > > a DB. I like "psql dbname". > > Nobody want to rename psql. Personaly, I dislike current command names for long > long time. Many times I tried create unix user by createuser command. And these > names could be potential names of system commands. > > > So I ask again, we're not seriously thinking about this are we? > > Yes, we are. And this is a reason why I prepare this survey, because we could > not reach a decision on the -hackers. However, it seems that we choose third > variant with new wrapper command pgc. > > Zdenek > > -- > Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general > -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
