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On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Ralph Smith wrote:

Ralph Smith wrote:

> And should be easier to find in the manual!
>
> I've looked in many related chapters of the 8.2 manual for a way to
> find out
> WHY a specific user has access to a database.
>
> Chapter 5    Data Definition
> Chapter 18  Database Roles & Privileges
> Chapter 20  Client Authorization


> postgres=# select * from pg_roles;
> rolname | rolsuper | rolinherit | rolcreaterole | rolcreatedb | rolcatupdate | rolcanlogin | rolconnlimit | rolpassword | rolvaliduntil | rolconfig | oid > ----------+----------+------------+---------------+------------- +--------------+-------------+--------------+------------- +---------------+-----------+-------
> lines removed
> smithrn | f | f | t | t | f | t | -1 | ******** | infinity | | 16393
>
> This user can connect via his .pgpass or manually since he's in a
> netID range that requires a password.
> But he can create and drop tables in any database!!!
>
> Why is that?
> How can I find out what he can do?
> The GRANT and REVOKE sections say nothing about which pg_xxxx tables
> to query, and I've been lookin'!
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Ralph Smith
>
> =====================

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/sql-grant.html

"Depending on the type of object, the initial default privileges might include granting some privileges to PUBLIC. The default is ... CONNECT
privilege and TEMP table creation privilege for databases"

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive
/ddl-schemas.html#DDL-SCHEMAS-PUBLIC

Note that by default, everyone has CREATE and USAGE privileges on the schema public. This allows all users that are able to connect to a given database to create objects in its public schema. If you do not want to allow that,
you can revoke that privilege:

REVOKE CREATE ON SCHEMA public FROM PUBLIC;
====================
Ralph's followup.

So am I to assume that there is no way to query just what privs a user/role has on an object, anything, from a DB to an index?

Well, the different database objects have the permissions that have been granted to them in columns in the catalog tables, pg_database.datacl, pg_class.relacl, and pg_proc.procacl for databases, relations, and functions, respectively. That gives postgres the ability to answer the question "Does this user have a given access permission for this object?" So, what you could do is much the same: for a given object, search through its *acl entry and determine if the given role is there with the pertinent permission, or if any group* roles in which the given role has membership does. Note for group role memberships that if the given role was not created with the INHERIT keyword then they won't have the group role permissions directly but, given that they do have the ability to change to the given group role, for your purposes, you could probably consider that a yes. Also, note that you'd need to follow the role memberships up any role "chains", for example where role John is in role Billing which is in role Admin or some such.

* Here I use the term group simply to denote a role in which other roles have membership.


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