hello, within pgsql in \? the command help there is: \du [PATTERN] list users the answer of "list users" is ----> List of roles (since the introduction of rules), so I recommend updating the documentation to \du [PATTERN] list roles (users) Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Straße 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2008 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania - Stay tuned! ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match