Karsten Hilbert <Karsten.Hilbert@xxxxxxx> writes: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:44:17AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> One question I'd have though is whether "freezing" of old tuples is >> likely to confuse your app. > Well, what we do is this: > - read row including XMIN > - do some UI stuff without open transactions > - update row with "... where pk = ... and XMIN = old_xmin_from_read" > If in the meantime another writer changed the data we > originally read we would detect that by xmin having changed > hence no row to be updated. So, yes, there is a *tiny* > failure condition: Hmm. I think the failure condition is not what you are thinking: in your example, you'd correctly conclude that some other transaction modified the row. The problem case is - read (a rather old) row including XMIN - VACUUM comes along and decides to set XMIN = FrozenTransactionId - update row with "... where pk = ... and XMIN = old_xmin_from_read" - update fails, when there is no need to fail As long as the failure is "soft", ie, you recover reasonably, this shouldn't be a big problem. But it's certainly not a scenario you should dismiss as not credible because of timescales. regards, tom lane ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match