Hi, I think the query planner is unaware of the possibly best plan in some situations. See the test case below: -- --------------------------------------------------- -- CREATE TABLE tparent ( id integer NOT NULL, ord integer NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT par_pkey_id PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT par_uniq_ord UNIQUE (ord) ); CREATE TABLE tchild ( par_id integer NOT NULL, ord integer NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT chi_pkey_parid_ord PRIMARY KEY (par_id, ord), CONSTRAINT chi_fkey FOREIGN KEY (par_id) REFERENCES tparent(id) ); INSERT INTO tparent VALUES (1, 3); INSERT INTO tparent VALUES (2, 1); INSERT INTO tparent VALUES (3, 4); INSERT INTO tparent VALUES (4, 5); INSERT INTO tparent VALUES (5, 2); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (1, 2); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (1, 1); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (2, 1); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (2, 3); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (2, 2); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (3, 1); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (3, 2); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (4, 1); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (5, 2); INSERT INTO tchild VALUES (5, 1); ANALYZE tparent; ANALYZE tchild; SET enable_seqscan TO false; SET enable_bitmapscan TO false; SET enable_hashjoin TO false; SET enable_mergejoin TO false; SET enable_sort TO false; EXPLAIN ANALYZE SELECT * FROM tparent JOIN tchild ON tchild.par_id = tparent.id WHERE tparent.ord BETWEEN 1 AND 4 ORDER BY tparent.ord, tchild.ord; -- --------------------------------------------------- -- Sort (cost=100000132.10..100000140.10 rows=8 width=16) (actual time=0.440..0.456 rows=9 loops=1) Sort Key: tparent.ord, tchild.ord -> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..84.10 rows=8 width=16) (actual time=0.179..0.270 rows=9 loops=1) -> Index Scan using par_uniq_ord on tparent (cost=0.00..20.40 rows=4 width=8) (actual time=0.089..0.098 rows=4 loops=1) Index Cond: ((ord >= 1) AND (ord <= 4)) -> Index Scan using chi_pkey_parid_ord on tchild (cost=0.00..9.93 rows=2 width=8) (actual time=0.023..0.028 rows=2 loops=4) Index Cond: (tchild.par_id = "outer".id) -- --------------------------------------------------- -- Even though I forced the nested loop plan using both indexes (that returns the rows in the correct order), there is a needless sort step on the top, consuming half of the time even on such small tables. Now it's clear why the planner did not choose this plan, why I had to force it: because it isn't the best if the sort is still there. The first time I posted this ( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2007-05/msg01306.php ) and read Tom's answer I was convinced that this is rarely a problem, but now I don't think so, since I ran into it for the third time. Can that sort step somehow be eliminated if the NestLoop's outer table is being scanned via a unique index? If not, how can I rewrite my indexes/query in such a way that it's still safe (the rows always come in the order I want), but I don't have to wait for that needless sort? I'm still using PostgreSQL 8.1.8. Thanks in advance, Denes Daniel ÁÁÁÁÁ Ugye nem félsz? Fotózz és Pályázz a The Witcher ajándékokért!!!! ____________________________________________________ http://freemail.hu/fototar/palyazat/palyazat.jspv?id=1768650 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq