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On 08/01/07 22:05, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On 08/01/07 10:37, Owen Hartnett wrote:
>>> At 4:52 PM +0200 8/1/07, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 1. August 2007 16:15, Madison Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> /Personally/, I love Debian on servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not quite as 'hardcore' as Gentoo (a great distro, but not one to
>>>>> start with!). It's the foundation of many of the popular distros
>>>>> (Ubuntu, Mepis, Knoppix, etc) and the Debian crew is very careful
>>>>>  about what they put into the 'stable' repositories.
>>>> I agree totally. Debian in a server configuration is quite easy to get
>>>> started with, and is rock solid. My first Linux "test server" (my old
>>>> Pentium 133 MHz desktop) way back in 2002 ran Debian Woody. I kept it
>>>> running until it died from old age a couple of years ago. Later I fell
>>>> in love with Gentoo. But if I'd have to run a server with maximum
>>>> stability and uptime, I think that I'd still prefer Debian.
>>> As an alternative viewpoint, I've been running the latest postgres on
>>> Mac OS X Server 10.4, and it's been great for me.  It was my first time
>>> using a server, and my first serious use of postgres (although I have
>>> had a lot of previous unix experience.)  All the power of unix, all the
>>> ease of the Macintosh (and it's server installation gives you lots of
>> Pardon me for being the contrarian, but why does a server need a
>> GUI?  Isn't that just extra RAM & CPU overhead that could be more
>> profitably put to use powering the application?
> 
> A server with a GUI sitting on a login screen is wasting zero
> resources.  Some enterprise management tools are in java which require
> a GUI to use so there is very little downside to installing X, so IMO
> a lightweight window manager is appropriate...a full gnome is maybe
> overkill.  Obviously, you want to turn of the 3d screen saver :-)

X is network-transparent.

Load the few necessary X libraries (Debian's packages are granular
enough to do this), and then use the GUI on your workstation to run
all those foolish GUI-based server (in a room down the hall, across
town or across the country, with compressed X) apps.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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