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Re: PHP sucks!! - was: persistent db connections in PHP

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On Saturday 16 June 2007, John Smith wrote:
> guys,
> love both tools but php @ 2.5 *billion* google results is far more
> popular than postgresql @ 25 million google results. *if* somebody's
> gotto adapt it's not php. php does what it does best in a way that
> stuffy academics don't get.

Mhhh - what does PHP have to do with Postgresql? Lots of pages just end 
in .php, which is why the google results are so high - guess what, the 
tool "html" hits 3.2 billion :-)

>
> On 6/16/07, PFC <lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > "PHP: very loosely typed, does whatever it wants"
>
> yeah php got a life of its own! sure be a lazy programmer and blame
> sql injection etc crap on php or try http://www.xdebug.org/ and
> others.
>
> bottomline- people who know other tools better gripe because their's
> isn't as popular.

I doubt popularity has anything to do with it. I've used PHP as it emerged 
back in 1990. I liked it back then because it produced faster results than 
perl/cgi. The downside was - and IMHO still is - that a lot of application 
code is embedded in the pages. Ok, nowadays PHP has advanced to a point where 
you don't really have to do that anymore, but still many people do - 
resulting in a nice, quickly built but often unmaintainable application.

IMHO there are many other web environments that are much better at separating 
the view from the actual code.

In the end, neither of these points has anything to do with postgresql.

Personally I'm more inclined to agree with Joshua on this one...

Uwe


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