Tino Wildenhain wrote:
totally off topic,
Tim Tassonis schrieb:
Ron Johnson wrote:
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My definition is, "toy used/trumpeted by pseudo-professionals as a
professional tool, when it just doesn't measure up".
Boah, here surely speaks a true professional playing in the league of
Donald Knuth or even Alan Kay, as opposed to all the pseudos like me
out there.
Is it Assembler or Smalltalk you write your web pages with?
No, python, java ;)
PHP absolutely is a professional tool as a scripting language, of
course with all the downsides of any scripting language. I'll choose
php over
Well no. PHP is not a professional language because it has no really
design - and that has nothing to do with the fact it beeing a scripting
language. Its a bad scripting language. (Say namespaces for example,
confusing function interfaces, unicode flaws, missing usable frameworks,
silly type handling, quoting hell)
- What do you mean by confusing function interfaces and unicode flaws?
- A lot of "professional" languages don't support namespaces and
frameworks are not part of a language, as I understand a language.
I think we really have different ideas about professional, can you point
me to a reference of your definition?
I'd definitely say that php is not really an all-purpose language, but
that doesn't make it unprofessional to me. C is not all-purpose, but
still professional.
Perl any day, as it is syntactically much cleaner and performs
sufficiently well for usual scripting needs.
ah... yes. Dont like perl either but its at least carrying some
actual language design.
Like what, as opposed to php?
Of course, I wouldn't write an operating system with it.
Would you write a language with it? :-)
No, I actually solely write scripts with it :-) And web applications.
Guess what most people use php for.
Btw, "professional programmers" can indeed use funny languages
- they are professional by they earning their living with it.
I have yet to see an unfunny language.
