The 8.2.2 source code is coming back in 1-2 days once everyone knows they should upgrade to 8.2.3. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- rob_spellberg wrote: > [ if this belongs on another list, such as -advocacy, i apologize. ] > > dear sir or madam --- > > permit me to submit a plan which, imho, > will transform the recent lemon into lemonade. > > we all know the famous motto, > "there is no such thing as a total failure. > it can always serve as a negative example." > > on monday, starting with the oldest first, > i secured the 7.3.18, 7.4.16 and 8.0.11 tarballs before being interrupted > [ i have since downloaded 8.0.12, 8.1.8 and 8.2.3 ]. > returning late yesterday, > i found my plan to obtain the remaining two tarballs thwarted. > this didn't bother me at the time, > as they wouldn't have been useful to me in the usual sense. > however, > overnight, > i thought of a way in which they --can-- be useful, in an atypical way, > and, > in the process, make the entire organization look good - really, really good. > > consider two markets: students and capitalists. > > this summer, > i am launching an education entity for the purpose of > teaching ambitious, precocious, motivated teen_agers > real programming > based on real computer science [ a subset of the ieee_cs & acm curriculum ] > using a real language [ c, oop comes later ] > on a real os [ freebsd, perhaps openbsd later ] > culminating in the integration of > real open_source subassemblies [ e. g., postgresql ] > into their applications. > [ i am also going to teach them money_management, among other things. ] > according to mckusick, > in his "design and implementation of freebsd", > at the end of chapter one, > this is the age range at which typical freebsd committers started. > if i can show my students that > real, seriously major, people, > working on a real, seriously major, project, > that is used by real, seriously major, organizations, > can make a mistake, > it will do wonders for their self_confidence. > > on the other hand, > there are some chamber_of_commerce people i know who like to ask, > "how good can it be if > it's a bunch of volunteers who > give it away for free?". > i think that > being able to show that errors, when discovered, are fixed promptly > is an excellent marketing point, > considering the price charged for the service. > i can write up a quick_&_dirty very_simple application to demonstrate the point. > i can quote from some of the emails i read today to > show the professionalism of the people who addressed the issue > [ if intellectual property is an issue, > i can point people to the archives instead > ]. > > the common point is this: > we are all human, so mistakes will happen. > when they do, admit it, apologize and fix it. > > in this spirit, i propose two plans: > > a] i think that the 8.1.7 and 8.2.2 directories > should be restored to /pub/source. > i would add a brief, one_off README [ perhaps named README_FIRST ? ] > that describes the bug and > warns not to use the version in a non_demonstration situation. > i think this is the proper action because, > when new versions are released, typically for security reasons, > we are advised to upgrade asap, > yet the prior versions remain available, none_the_less. > in addition, the time_stamps will demonstrate the rapidity of repair. > lastly, there is the argument of historical completeness. > > b] if, for some reason, this is not possible, > perhaps a reader of this post has copies on an ftp server > to which i may log_in anonymously or some such. > while beggars can't be choosers, > i seek the complete 8.1.7 and 8.2.2 bzip2 versions, if possible; > of course, gzip also works. > oh, yes; the md5's would be nice, also. > all i can promise at this time is to > name you publicly [ with your permission ] and > say very nice things about you, > as i perform the above_described demonstration. > i am subscribed to -general. > > kudos to everyone involved. > you may not think you did anything special because, to you, this is normal. > however, > so many people just don't expect anything good to happen anymore > because there are far too many people in this world who just don't give a damn. > > thank you. > > rob spellberg > woodstock, illinois > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org/ -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
