Richard Troy <rtroy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > That said, nobody has yet assured me that when I give a timestamp I get it > back unmolested. Well, as far as the backend is concerned you do get it back unmolested (up to the limits of float roundoff error, if you use float timestamps): * unconditionally for timestamp without timezone; * if your TimeZone is the same as it was on insert, for timestamp with timezone. (If you change the timezone setting you'll get a suitably rotated value, and no that's not a bug.) Also you have to be careful not to pass in a nonexistent or ambiguous value during DST changes, else you might get an adjusted value back. If you always run with TimeZone = GMT then there's effectively no difference between timestamp with and without time zone. Now the original context of this thread was what happens with the JDBC driver, and that I'm not sure about --- they have a problem because they have to map both types to the same Java type, and it doesn't fit real well. But you'd be better off asking on pgsql-jdbc if you want the gory details about that. regards, tom lane